Lahore, 21 March: Pakistan opened their campaign on unsatisfactory way when they floored the chances came their way and lost 0-3 to Turkmenistan in fourth AFC Challenge Cup Qualifiers (Group-B) match today at MBJP Stadium, Petaling Jaya, Malaysia. Pakistan’s other matches in the event will be against India (23 March) and Chinese Taipei (25 March).
Turkmenistan took sixth minute lead following a right wing cross and striker Urazov Didarklych made no mistake, leaving keeper Muhammad Omar no chance. Turks led 1-0 at interval as poor finishing of Pakistani front runners allowed them no equalizer. The winners added two more in the early and latter of second session.
Pakistan, who started the game with suspended Manzoor Ahmed, fumbled three glorious chances because of poor finishing.
Turkmenistan doubled the margin just a minute into second half through midfielder Amanov Arslanmyrat. The Central Asians were home and dry when striker Karadanov Mamedaly steered the ball past substitute keeper Amir Gul in the 86th minute.
Pakistan failed to reply and if they want to salvage anything yet, they must win their remaining two games against India (23 March) and Chinese Taipei (25 March). India comfortably beat Chinese Taipei 3-0 later in the day.
Following were two teams:
Pakistan
Goalkeepers: Amir Gul (NBP), Muhammad Omar (KESC)
Defenders: Manzoor Ahmed (WAPDA), Alamgir Khan (Police), Atif Bashir Qureshi (Barry Town, Wales), Samar Ishaq (KRL) CAP, Zeeshan Rehman (Muangthong United FC, Thailand),
Midfielders: Faisal Iqbal (NBP), Syed Arif Hussain (WAPDA), Muhammad Adil (KRL), Mahmood Khan (KRL), Kashif Mumtaz Siddiqui (Fresno Fuego, USA), Abdul Aziz (NBP) VC, Nasr Ullah Khan (PIA), Adnan Farooq Ahmed (Aboomoslem FC, Iran),
Strikers : Jadeed Khan Pathan (WAPDA), Rizwan Asif (KRL), Kalim Ullah (KRL), Imran Niazi (WAPDA), Arif Mehmood (WAPDA), Muhammad Qasim (KRL).
Coach : Tariq Lutfi
Turkmenistan
Goalkeepers: Nikita Gorbunov (Nebitchi), Rahmaberdy Alikhanov, Mamed Orazmukhammedov (both MTTU).
Defenders: Hema Komekov, Begli Annageldyev, David Sarkisov, Maksim Belyh (all MTTU), Bakhtiyar Hodzhaahmedov (Nebitchi), Nazar Choliev (Ashkhabad), Guvanch Rejepov (Talypov Sport), Gochkuli Gochkuliev (Bunyodkor, Uzbekistan).
Midfielders: Dovran Allanazarov, Perhat Podarov, Guvanch Hangeldyev, Abdulla Gurbannepesov, Mihail Mohamedov (all MTTU), Amir Gurbani (Altyn Asyr), Dovlet Bayramov (Merv), Begley Nurmuradov (Akhal), Serdar Geldyev, Rakhimberdi Baltayev (both Ashgabat).
Strikers: Berdy Shamuradov (Ashgabat), Didarklych Urazov (Nebitchi), Gahrymanberdy Chonkaev (Altyn Asyr), Azat Garajayev (MTTU).
Foreign-based players – goalkeeper Maksatmurad Shamuradov (Gohar, Iran), midfielders Vyacheslav Krendelev (Luch-Energia, Russia) Murad Khamrayev (Almalik, Uzbekistan), forwards Ruslan Mingazov (Skonto, Latvia) and Artur Gevorgyan (Nasaf, Uzbekistan)
Coach : Yazguly Hojageldiyev
Match Commissioner : Manirul Islam ( Bangladesh)
Referee Inspector Yazbeck Yazbeck (Lebanon)
Referee Akbar Bakhshi Zadeh (Iran)
Assistant Referees: Rafatisajedi Davoud, Alinezhadian Saeid (bothIran)
4th Official: Serazitdinov Viktor (Uzbekistan)
PFF Media Cell adds:
Pakistan were handicapped by the absence of WAPDA’s defender Manzoor Ahmed who was not allowed by AFC to appear in Pakistan- Turkmenistan clash in fourth AFC Challenge Cup Qualifiers (Group-B) match today at MBJP Stadium, Petaling Jaya, Malaysia.
According to Match Commissioner Manirul Islam (Bangladesh) and Referee Inspector Yazbeck Yazbeck (Lebanon), was suspended following a Red Card against Uzbekistan in the 36th Asian U19 Champion at Takhti Stadium, Iran on 10 December 2009.
It was first half action during which Yemeni Referee Saleh Al-Yarimi had shown Manzoor the Yellow Card in the 30th minute, followed by Red Card six minutes later.
Quetta-born Manzoor was born on 1 February 1992 and he played for Pakistan U21 against Thailand U21, Malaysia U 21 in 2011. He also played both the matches for National team against Palestine at Karachi, Lahore.
AFC match report of the game:
http://www.the-afc.com/en/component/joomleague/?view=report&compID=408&matchId=3635
Pakistan is just going backward instead of forward. It’s really no point following Pakistan at the moment because they won’t progress in our Life-Time. We can’t do anything about football-Pakistan so what is the point of advertising defeats all the time? the PFF is not listening to us and we can’t have any input, so hence we don’t make a difference at all to Pakistan-Football.
I don’t believe foreign players are any better then local Pakistani players. I truly believe that. Just because they’re western born doesn’t mean they are superior then local Pakistanis.
You are wrong on so many levels.
The expatriate players are just as, or even more, Pakistani than the local ones! They come from better and harder semi-pro and professional backgrounds, they read and understand the game better, and perform consistently a lot better than the local ones! They sacrifice a LOT to come and play for Pakistan each time, yet many of them get snubbed for not being favourite of local coaches in charge.
Local players are essentially slowly stagnating govt department employees who just want a job at WAPDA, PIA, NBP, KESC, etc and they are set for life. They play in a substandard league under substandard coaches with questionable qualification claims where fairness is ditched for sifarish and sarkari snobbery. Many of them get selected for national team, and get to enjoy the international duty perks without really having the heart and soul (and opportunity) to improve and work hard, because at the end of they day their govt jobs are secure.
The problem is the local mentality kills off such great talent utilisation. Local coaches have a cynical department-centric attitude and act like they are kings and hate being wronged despite being poorly aware of the game.
The fact that thsi national team has seen so many names chop and change except the usual line of expatriate stars proves how fickle the local thinking is!
The way Pakistan lost to Turkmenistan is totally embrassing. Pakistan needs to improve thier attack and midfield play. Having Samar Ishaq as captain is a pathetic idea. Let alone he himself is not a good player who deserves to be out of team. Still we need to improve domestic league if we are expected to be a competitive side. Foriegn coach is the need of an hour indorder to get better results.
If Pakistan has to deliver then must perform in next two matches. India will be more tough than Turkmenistan. Also Chinese Taipi will give us tough time.
We need to change our premiere league. A foreign coach is not the solution because he will get mad. we need many coaches for premiere league teams. permanent job is good and bad. i think player should be transfered bw clubs as in other leagues.
Agreed with your point.
ali…i totally AGREE WITH YOU…..you cannot even compare local pakistani players to those who have played professionally abroad!!!…all your reasons are fully justified!!!!
maybe in time you can but that depends on the efforts, expereince that the PFF will provide to the local boys. another thing that may be trivial as i mention it but is still an essnetial part of this sport is the physique, health and nutrition of our local boys…..It is VITALl that those local boys employed in pakistani football follow a VERY healthy eating plan and traning regime…the boys around the world are taller stronger and are at an advantage physically…unlike cricket….football is a very physical demanding game…..they stand no chance against the europeans whose players can be a foot taller and 3 times stronger than them….alos their stamina is greater…..pff needs to make that part of their regime too if they wan tto succeed…..the boys need to be fed well and trianed to a very high standard!!!!!
I agree with Ali Ahsan completely. He pointed out some fundamental points which need to adressed if we want to improve the standard of football in Pakistan.
THE KEY FOOTBALL IS BUILDING FROM THE BACK/DEFENCE…OKAY THEY DIDNT CONVERT THIER CHANCES BUT LOOSING 3 – 0 IS NOT GOOD…ALSO THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING THAT PAKISTAN SHOULD PLAY ATTACKING FOOTBALL….THAT IS A JOKE, HOW MANY NATIONS EVEN PLAY ATTACKING FOOTBALL…EVEN THE GREAT HOLLAND TEAM CHOOSE TO BE DEFENSIVE IN THE WORLD CUP, FROM TOTAL FOOTBALL TO DEFENSIVE FOOTBALL.. PAKISTAN NEEDS TO GRIND OUT RESULTS, NO MATTER HOW THEY WIN.. THEY NEED TO GET RESULTS, AT THE END OF THE DAY THE BOTTOM LINE IS RESULTS. IF THEY MUST THEN THEY SHOUD ADDOPT THE STOKE CITY WAY OF PLAYING FOR THE TIME BEING, UNTIL THEY IMPROVE THIER WORLD RATINGS, I’M NOT A SUPPORTER OF BORING FOOTBALL BUT IT WILL GET THEM RESULTS & IMPROVE THEM AS A WHOLE. THE FUNDAMENTALS OF BOOTALL IS TO ALWAYS START FROM THE DEFENCE… I KNOW ABOUT FOOTBALL, I USED TO PLAY FOR CRYSTAL PALACE & READING IN THE PAST. ALOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT THEY NEED TO PLAY LIKE BARCELONA, THOSE WHO BELIEVE THAT DONT KNOW ANYTHING HOW FOOTBALL WORKS…PAKISTAN NEEDS TO BE PHYSICAL…THEY NEED TO GRIND OUT RESULTS….SCORE FROM SET PIECES…CORNERS ETC….SERIOUSLY….HOPE SOMEBODY READS THIS & IMPLEMENTS IT…. THE MAIN GOAL SHOULD BE TO GET PAKISTAN IN THE TOP 100 IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS…IF THEY COULD ACHIEVE THAT THEN THEY COULD ELEVATE & REVITALIZE INTO A SOLID TEAM….
PEACE & BLESSINGS TO EVERYBODY… SALAM-
Muslim leaders see tour as back-channel diplomacy
Pak football team’s tour of Palestine stirs uproar
The issue surfaced after the Pakistan Football Federation (PFF) President Faisal Saleh Hayat announced that the footballers will also be visiting the al-Aqsa mosque in the occupied Jerusalem during the tour.
“Any visit to areas under illegal Zionist control will be a violation of Pakistan’s acknowledged policy on Israel,” said Liaqat Baloch secretary-general of Jamaat-e-Islami, demanding that the Foreign Ministry should take notice of such plans, which he said “clearly violated Pakistan’s foreign and domestic policies.” He warned that people of Pakistan have an emotional attachment to Palestine and would react strongly against such moves.
how goal keeper Muhammad Omer performed in this match, and what is Lufti’s view on this match
Well said by Ali Ahsan & BOSS……….
@ BOSS… i have a question 4 u… with the current squad & the current Coach & Manager, what do you think needs to be improved or changed inorder to get better results.
like you said, to improve the world rankings & get into the top 100, inorder to achieve that we must produce results but how do we do that?
Also, with so less exposure & the current Football league in the country what do you see & what can be done to improve it ?
GOOD QUESTION…WELL HONESTLY…THE MAIN THING THEY NEED TO ADDRESS IS STABILITY, THEY NEED THE COACH TO STAY FOR ATLEAST 4 YEARS, THEY CANT KEEP CHOP & CHANGING THE COACHES, BACKGROUND STAFF ETC… THEY NEED TO STICK WITH THE SAME COACH AND GIVE HIM TIME WITH THE WHOLE TEAM, SO THE TEAM CAN HAVE A STRONG BOND & CAN UNDERSTAND THE TACTICS, THE MORE THEY THEY KEEP CHANGING COACHS THE MORE TIME IT WILL TAKE FOR THEM TO BE A DECENT SIDE.
REGARDING THE CURRENT MANAGER, I DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT HIM…ALOT OF PEOPLE SAY ‘BRING IN A FOREIGN MANAGER’ BUT THATS POINTLESS IF THEY DONT GIVE THE MANAGER TIME…THEY NEED A MANAGER FOR ATLEAST 3 – 4 YEARS, SOMEBODY WHO CAN REJUVENATE THE SIDE & WORK WITH THE YOUTH
REGARDING EXPOSURE, THE SOONER THEY START WINNING GAMES, THE SOONER THEY WILL GET KNOWN…THERE IS ALREADY INTEREST IN PAKISTAN FOR THE GAME…SO IF THEY START WINNING..ALOT OF PEOPLE WILL NOTICE & IN THE FUTURE THERE WILL BE MUCH MORE INTEREST WORLDWIDE..
FOR THE TIME BEING, I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD WORK ON THIER DEFENCE, HAVE A MEN BEHIND THE BALL SYSTEM…SO THEY MAKE SURE THEY DONT GET DESTROYED BY OPPONENTS… THE DEFENCE IS EVERYTHING…IF THEY KEEP GETTING THRASED BY TEAMS THEN PEOPLE WILL NOT HAVE INTEREST…IF THEY HAVE RESPECTABLE SCORELINES, THEN THEY WILL SUCCEED… ITS GOING TO BE A LONG SHOT BUT I BELIEVE THAT PAKISTAN CAN BE A DECENT TEAM, IT WILL JUST TAKE TIME…. I PERSONALITY THINK THEY SHOULD GET HELP FROM IRAN….BECAUSE IRAN HAS A GOOD TEAM…I’M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD WORK…BUT IF IRAN CAN HELP THEM, I’M SURE PAKISTAN WILL BE A SOLID TEAM… I KNOW PAKISTAN HAS TALENT, THEY JUST NEED THE RIGHT GUIDANCE & THEN THE EXPOSURE WILL RISE!!!!
Righlty sumed up the whole situation. There is one question to be asked is improvement in our domestic structure essential for improvement of football team?
Exactly… the thing is they need to stick with one coach for a period of 3 to 4 years…. but stick to a good one… imagine u stick to a bad coach for this long, then u will loose every single bit that u’ve gained in the past so many years.
Well, also agree with the Iran part, why don’t they take help from Iran or Turkey !!! There people will be willing to stay in Pakistan & take the football staff jobs …
If Faisal Saleh hayat is really a passionate football fan, he should consider this because nothing else has been working for this long …
http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/romulus/s/players-coaches-24613.html&player_id=269757
check out this striker
We need this striker in our playing XI
Pakistan needs to bring the players out of their country. Players who live in pakistan need to go and play abroad.
ok. we need a european manager.
I’M NOT SURE ABOUT THE DOMESTIC STRUCTURE OF PAKISTAN FOOTBALL, IT TAKES YEARS TO WORK ON THE LEAGUES OF ANY DIVISION…IF THEY TAKE THAT ROUTE AT THE MOMENT IT WILL TAKE A VERYY LONG TIME….THEY NEED TO BUILD WITH WHAT THEY HAVE, RATHER THEN TAKING HUGE STEPS..THEY NEED TO DO EVERYTHING STEP BY STEP…I’M NOT SURE ABOUT THE PAKISTAN MANAGER BUT HE SEEMS ALOTT MORE EXPERIENCED THEN THE PREVIOUS COACH, IF THE COACH IS DECENT & HE HAS TIME THEN GIVE HIM A FEW YEARS…IF THE COACH IS TERRIBLE THEN THEY NEED TO SORT THAT OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE…IT IS VITAL TO HAVE A EXCELLENT COACH & BACKROOM STAFF,
IF THEY REALLY WANT TO IMPROVE QUICKLY..THE BEST ALTERNATIVE IS TO GET HELP FROM IRAN, THAT WILL BE A GREAT WAY TO SUCCEED SINCE IRAN IS NEXT TO PAKISTAN…SO IT WOULD BE SIMPLE & IRAN KNOW HOW TO WORK WITH FOOTBALL PLAYERS, THEY HAVE GOT PLAYERS WHO PLAY IN SPAIN…THEY HAVE DONE ALOT & ARE ONE OF THE BEST SIDES IN ASIA…IF THEY CAN GET IRAN TO HELP I AM CERTAIN THEY WILL BE A SOLID SIDE FOR YEARS TO COME….& IF THEY GET TURKEY TO HELP THE TEAM, IT WILL BE FANTASTIC!!!!!!! THAT STRIKER ALSO SEEMS DECENT….THE PAKISTAN BACKROOM STAFF NEEDS TO LOOK AT EVERY PLAYER WHO CAN HELP THEM
Gr8 stuff from the BOSS… Lets hope they go for the HELP… or else v r a disaster !!!
Pakistan team should play friendly matches evey now & then. The players need to know & understand each other’s game. The team needs to get together & become a unit. This happens when they spend lot of time together, in other sense play as many games as possible.
If the foreign pakistanis are so better then our local pakistanis then why dont we see the like of zesh and other western pakistanis play good for pakistan?????????? infact theyy play poorely even then samar ishaq lol.
those who dont have facts or proof to support their views are AWESOME! SENATOR YOU ARE AWESOME.
You are an ignorant troll. Everything you just said is worth being considered less than a joke. Move along.
I actually agree with some people that the foreign based Pakistanis aren’t good enough against teams such as Turkmenistan and even India. All you have to do is watch the matches of Pakistan matches and clearly you see defenders such as Zeesham Rehman get tackled, outskilled and outrun by the opposition. I have yet to see any foreign born Pakistani players play half decent for Pakistan compared to the domestic Pakistani players. Instead of looking for answers i.e foreign players one should look for a solution i.e domestic structure, coaching, money, investment etc.
There are people in Pakistan who are wealthy and soccer fans who can enhance football in a way in the country but knowing Pakistanis they rather choose to spend uncessarily. The problem is the root of our people, the way our people think and our mentallity. If one cannot be efficient off the pitch then how do you expect them to be efficient on the pitch?…The more west you go the better the football. Another problem with Pakistan is there doesn’t seem to be spirit. At least other lower nations have spirity and put a good show, but we don’t see that. I agree with someone above that there will be no progress in our generation or life time.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about in the first part of your comment!
Hamaza, have you actually ever watched a match featuring Zesh Rehman, Atif Bashir, Adnan Ahmed etc??
These players have been unanimously regarded as the best players we have had over the last 4-5 years! Local and foreign coaches agree that these boys are head and shoulders above the long line of local talent used and discarded by ad-hoc coaching setups.
They are NOT supermen, and the fact that our team has long been utilised poorly by department-centric politicised coaching appointments for years that utilise their favourite players rather than merit and poor coaching shows how bad we tend to be as a whole team.
I have already described such a point of view as bogus in my earlier comment here that explains WHY our domestic structure produces nothing but poorly trained talent. Care to pay attention to that?
Totally disagree with Hamza…………
He really has no idea, wat he’s talking about or where Pakistani Football stands…